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#15710 ŚWIETA, ŚWIĘTA, ŚWIĘTA..........
Napisano przez yogiii on 2005-12-31, godz. 13:02 w Boże Narodzenie & Sylwester
> Jeśli komuś to nie odbiera przyszłości i lubi takie 'momenty', to jego decyzja. Mnie to niczego nie odbiera i teraz czuję się z tym lepiej że nie obchodzę świąt. Nie czuję się zatopiony w rzeczywistości. Mnie takie rzeczy nie 'budują'. Myślę że są rzeczy które dają więcej szczęścia.
#130 Świadkowie, dlaczego.....?
Napisano przez yogiii on 2003-05-18, godz. 10:20 w Tematyka ogólna
"We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises, the Scriptural basis for which is already in the hands of our readers in the six volumes of SCRIPTURE STUDIES. We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophesy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them." -- "Views From the Watch Tower," Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 1 January 1908, reprint, 4110.
>> "W dzisiejszych czasach dostęp do informacji jest bardzo ułatwiony i wiele żeczy z historycznych poczynań WTS można sprawdzić np. na stronie Iszbina (haha - kryptoreklama??)."
Na stronie Iszbina jest sporo fałszywych informacji, postaram się na wakacje troszkę mocniej się do tego zabrać.
Pozdrawiam
#875 Świadkowie, dlaczego.....?
Napisano przez yogiii on 2003-10-09, godz. 08:49 w Tematyka ogólna
Oczywiście że nie, ile wiesz o sobie nie będąc nigdy w walce? Abraham miał zabić swojego syna, zrobił już to w sercu. Dlaczego to zrobił? By podporządkować się Bogu. Co by się stało gdyby się postawił? Zginąłby. Zatem, zawsze tak jest że wszyscy wolą uratować swój tyłek. Nawet świetny tatuś Lot wolał oddać swoje córy miastu niż sam się „nadstawić” – taki z niego ojciec.
A może wszystko to wygląda inaczej? Jakiemu celowi to służyło? A może Biblia to szkoła przetrwania. Wszystko i tak w przyrodzie na dłuższą metę się regeneruje. Palące się lasy, nasiona które dopiero rozsiewane są w odpowiedniej temperaturze. Wszystko to ginie po to by zrodziło się nowe. Bez poświęcenia nie mielibyśmy nic, bylibyśmy nikim. Być może Abraham umarłby i nic by z tego nie było a tak to został postawiony w innej okoliczności gdzie mógł od razu się wykazać. Czego to na dłuższą metę nas nauczyło? To nie jest takie proste…
Pozdrawiam, PC
#148 Świadkowie, dlaczego.....?
Napisano przez yogiii on 2003-05-20, godz. 06:36 w Tematyka ogólna
„Nie rozsądne byłoby zmieniać te cyfry.* To są Boże daty nie nasze*. 1914 nie jest datą początku, lecz końca” („The Zion’s Watchtower”, z 15 lipca 1894, str. 226).
Reply: Troszkę mniej agresji... Proponuję artykuł "On Interpretion", [ciekawsze rzeczy podkreślam].
ZION'S
WATCH TOWER
AND
HERALD OF CHRIST'S PRESENCE
Vol. I ********** AUGUST, 1879 ********** No. 2
ON INTERPRETATION
(1) Many friends of the Bible, instead of regarding it as containing a system of truth, look upon it as a compilation of facts, commandments and promises, that are not susceptible of arrangement. Such persons are weak and vacillating, and often at the mercy of the bold unbeliever, who finds in his "God of Nature" the embodiment of law and order. He sees order in Geology, Astronomy and other sciences, but only confusion in the Bible, and he rightly reasons that God's works should be harmonious. He knows the principles of those sciences, and can read the book of nature, we will suppose (though but few are free from the domination of leaders who give us ideas second hand), but he knows little, if anything, of the plan of the Bible, and therefore cannot read it. One man has as much right to reject Astronomy because he cannot understand it, as another man has to reject the Bible for the same reason.
(2) What is confusion when not understood, becomes when explained beautiful and harmonious.
(3) Because, while learning, men differ and quarrel over their opinions does not militate against the truth of any system. If men were more fully controlled by the Spirit of Christ, they could differ in opinion without quarreling.
(4) Until absolute knowledge is gained, each ray of light will at least modify former ideas.
(5) To understand any science or book it should be read according to its own principles of interpretation. "No prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." 2 Pet. 1:21. Moved by one Spirit it should be taken as a whole, and not disconnectedly. If we would compare scripture with scripture, we would learn that--
"God is his own interpreter, And He will make it plain."
(6) We affirm that a piece-meal interpretation is the cause of confusion in the Christian world, and gives rise to the profane proverb that "the Bible is just like an old fiddle on which any tune may be played." Very few pretend to use much of the Bible; only a few practical precepts, and enough to prove the particular creed, are valued by the many. They virtually blame the Lord for giving a large book when a small one would have been all-sufficient.
(7) The practice of many in teaching is no more consistent than was that of the old Negro who made Paul vindicate him in theft: "Let him that stole, steal." The words, "no more," did not suit his purpose. The writer remembers hearing a minister (shall I say, of Christ) preach a sermon against the doctrine of justification by faith from the words: "To him that worketh is the reward." (Romans 4:4) The perversion will be apparent to all that will read the context.
(8) We do not accuse men generally of dishonesty; we are glad to believe that all parties have some truth, and that they defend their errors with sincerity. None of us are perfect in knowledge, and doubtless all have in the past sincerely believed to be truth, and earnestly defended what is now regarded as error. This should make us feel kindly toward all who differ with us, and who cannot yet see all we can see.
(9) The sects are too much like men backing into a corner, and defending themselves with a text.
(10) A text is of no value as proof of a doctrine unless its place in the plan of the ages be understood. The Calvinist, Arminian or Universalist may readily find a text that will seem to sustain his theory; and the Infidel will say the three texts contradict each other. Each disputant will pass lightly over or ignore the proof-texts of the others, and so sustain their own theory at all hazard.
(11) If the Bible is true there must be a theory which will make use of all these texts, and belittle none of them. There is a theory which claims to do this, and the foundation of that theory is a plan of the ages. Would that all lovers of truth understood that theory, and the plan on which it is based. In the search for truth it becomes necessary to discriminate between Bible language and "home made scripture" or pulpit phraseology. The Bible does not claim to be so plain that everybody can understand it. "But if God intended the word for man's use, why has He not made it plain?" I ask, why are the gold, the coal and the iron hidden deep in the earth? Why are all things of value made difficult of attainment? There is a question of character involved in it. Desire, will, energy, determination and faithfulness will be rewarded.
(12) Some truths lie on the surface and are easily understood, being adapted to the conditions of childhood physically and spiritually. These properly used are as "milk for babes," and give strength for work, growth and further search. But to become as men in the knowledge of God, we must cry after it, seek it as silver, and search for it as for hid treasures. (Proverbs 2:1-5) As the word is arranged as food for the individual as babe, young man and aged, so is it of the race in its different stages of development. It will assist us if we remember that the Bible was not written for one man, nor for one age, but for all men and all ages, adapted to the circumstances as "meat in due season." Thus the "word is a lamp to our feet," giving light for present need; and "The path of the just is as a shining light that shineth more and more unto the perfect day." (Proverbs 4:18) Many do not understand how the Bible could be so written as to remain dark for a time, and then gradually unfold its truth as a burning lamp; but the fact of its being so is to all that understand it an unanswerable argument in favor of its inspiration by the foreseeing spirit of God. In Daniel 12 is given an example clear and simple.
(13) The truths concerning the "time of the end" are said to be "shut up and sealed" until that time. Then "knowledge shall be increased," and "the wise shall understand." The Papal dominion over both Church and State crippled every energy and prevented Bible searching. The overthrow of that dominion in 1798 by the French Revolution marked the beginning of the "time of the end" (Daniel 11:35), and opened the way for a multitude of improvements and the "increase of knowledge." Of course those who have the spirit of truth love it, and search for it, will learn when others will fail, but the wisest and best of Christians could not gain accurate knowledge on this subject until the seal of that book was broken at the time appointed of the Father.
(14) We are not more intelligent or pious than our fathers, even if it be true as we claim that we have advanced truths. Let all bear in mind that "to whom much is given much is required." If we are advanced in truth we should also be advanced in holiness, and obedience to God's will is an important aid in knowing the truth. -- John 7:17.
He that values reputation more than truth, how can he believe? -- John 5:44.
John H. Paton
Koniec...
Nikt nie mówi że nie było błędów, ale dziś już wiele rzeczy sprostowano.
>> [Vikers] tak, tak 1975 dobitnym tego przykładem
> Wyjaśniano że rok 75 będzie końcem 6000 lat ludzkiego istnienia. Publikacje WTBTS mówiły że jest to tam jakiś ważny moment w dziejach ludzkości, że warto się temu przyjrzeć, natomiast NIGDY nie pisano że jest to koniec tego systemu rzeczy. Co powiedziano Świadkom Jehowy na temat tego roku? Odpowiedź zamieszczam ze Strażnicy, z 15 października, 1966, strona 631:
"At the Baltimore assembly Brother Franz in his closing remarks made some interesting comments regarding the year 1975…….." After explaining in some detail the reasoning behind why it was felt 1975 was important, he said....
‘" What about the year 1975? What is it going to mean, dear friends?’ asked Brother Franz. ‘Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah’s witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. But we are not saying. All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don’t any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975. But the big point of it all is this, dear friends: Time is short. Time is running out, no question about that.”
>Przejdźmy do roku 1968, dwa ciekawe artykuły ze Strażnicy. Pierwszy 1 maj, Strony 271 – 273 oraz z 15 sierpnia, strony 499 – 501, artykuł pt. "Why are you looking forward to 1975":
May 1 watchtower 1968 pages 271 -273
THE SEVENTH DAY
4 According to reliable Bible chronology Adam was created in the year 4026 B.C.E., likely in the autumn of the year, at the end of the sixth day of creation. Then God brought the animals to man to name. Yet, of Adam, Genesis states these words of Jehovah: "It is not good for the man to continue by himself." (Gen. 2:18) Adam would realize this lonely condition very quickly, perhaps in just a few days or a few weeks. He would realize he needed another earthling with whom he could communicate, share his experiences, and his life. Nor would his naming the animals take an unduly long time. The basic animal kinds could have been relatively quickly named, for when such basic kinds were taken into the ark in Noah’s day, it did not involve millions of beasts, but perhaps only a few hundred basic kinds. Thus, Adam’s naming of the animals and his realizing that he needed a counterpart would have occupied only a brief time after his creation. Since it was also Jehovah’s purpose for man to multiply and fill the earth, it is logical that he would create Eve soon after Adam, perhaps just a few weeks or months later in the same year, 4026 B.C.E. After her creation, God’s rest day, the seventh period, immediately followed.(Some of these points clarified in the August 15 Watchtower below)
5 Therefore, God’s seventh day and the time man has been on earth apparently run parallel. To calculate where man is in the stream of time relative to God’s seventh day of 7,000 years, we need to determine how long a time has elapsed from the year of Adam and Eve’s creation in 4026 B.C.E. From the autumn of that year to the autumn of 1 B.C.E., there would be 4,025 years. From the autumn of 1 B.C.E. to the autumn of 1 C.E. is one year (there was no zero year). From the autumn of 1 C.E. to the autumn of 1967 is a total of 1,966 years. Adding 4,025 and 1 and 1,966, we get 5,992 years from the autumn of 4026 B.C.E. to the autumn of 1967. Thus, eight years remain to account for a full 6,000 years of the seventh day. Eight years from the autumn of 1967 would bring us to the autumn of 1975, fully 6,000 years into God’s seventh day, his rest day. [COMPARE THIS with PART OF THE QUOTE ABOVE IS PUT IN A DIFFERENT PLACE. I only mention this to demonstrate how oppsers of JWS can try to manipulate the thinking of their readers by the way they put their material together.]
6 After 6,000 years of misery, toil, trouble, sickness and death under Satan’s rule, mankind is indeed in dire need of relief, a rest. The seventh day of the Jewish week, the sabbath, would well picture the final 1,000-year reign of God’s kingdom under Christ when mankind would be uplifted from 6,000 years of sin and death. (Rev. 20:6) Hence, when Christians note from God’s timetable the approaching end of 6,000 years of human history, it fills them with anticipation. Particularly is this true because the great sign of the "last days" has been in the course of fulfillment since the beginning of the "time of the end" in 1914. And, as Jesus said, "this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." (Matt. 24:34) Some of the generation that discerned the beginning of the time of the end in 1914 will still be alive on earth to witness the end of this present wicked system of things at the battle of Armageddon.—Rev. 16:14, 16.
7 The immediate future is certain to be filled with climactic events, for this old system is nearing its complete end. Within a few years at most the final parts of Bible prophecy relative to these "last days" will undergo fulfillment, resulting in the liberation of surviving mankind into Christ’s glorious 1,000-year reign. What difficult days, but, at the same time, what grand days are just ahead!
8 Does this mean that the year 1975 will bring the battle of Armageddon? No one can say with certainty what any particular year will bring. Jesus said: "Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows." (Mark 13:32) Sufficient is it for God’s servants to know for a certainty that, for this system under Satan, time is running out rapidly. How foolish a person would be not to be awake and alert to the limited time remaining, to the earthshaking events soon to take place, and to the need to work out one’s salvation!
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WATCHTOWER AUGUST 15
ADAM CREATED AT CLOSE OF "SIXTH DAY".
30 Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then? Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man’s existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of Christ. If these two periods run parallel with each other as to the calendar year, it will not be by mere chance or accident but will be according to Jehovah’s loving and timely purposes. Our chronology, however, which is reasonably accurate (but admittedly not infallible), at the best only points to the autumn of 1975 as the end of 6,000 years of man’s existence on earth. It does not necessarily mean that 1975 marks the end of the first 6,000 years of Jehovah’s seventh creative "day." Why not? Because after his creation Adam lived some time during the "sixth day," which unknown amount of time would need to be subtracted from Adam’s 930 years, to determine when the sixth seven-thousand-year period or "day" ended, and how long Adam lived into the "seventh day." And yet the end of that sixth creative "day" could end within the same Gregorian calendar year of Adam’s creation. It may involve only a difference of weeks or months, not years.
(Please note the information between the "quotes". If you re read the first quote the impression that the writer was trying to put forward was that the Society said that Armagedon would happen within a few weeks or months and not years of 1975 The Society said COULD The Watchtower article writer was looking at things from a human point of view and a human perspective of time not from Gods perspective of time. He was over excited about what the signs meant. But regardless of that CAUTIONS WERE put in place)
31 In regard to Adam’s creation it is good to read carefully what the Bible says. Moses in compiling the book of Genesis referred to written records or "histories" that predated the Flood. The first of these begins with Genesis 1:1 and ends at Genesis 2:4 with the words, "This is the history of the heavens and the earth . . . " The second historical document begins with Genesis 2:5 and ends with verse two of chapter five. Hence we have two separate accounts of creation from slightly different points of view. In the second of these accounts, in Genesis 2:19, the original Hebrew verb translated "was forming" is in the progressive imperfect form. This does not mean that the animals and birds were created after Adam was created. Genesis 1:20-28 shows it does not mean that. So, in order to avoid contradiction between chapter one and chapter two, Genesis 2:19, 20 must be only a parenthetical remark thrown in to explain the need for creating a "helper" for man. So the progressive Hebrew verb form could also be rendered as "had been forming."—See Rotherham’s translation (Ro), also Leeser’s (Le).
32 These two creation accounts in the book of Genesis, though differing slightly in the treatment of the material, are in perfect agreement with each other on all points, including the fact that Eve was created after Adam. So not until after this event did the sixth creative day come to an end. Exactly how soon after Adam’s creation is not disclosed. "After that [Adam and Eve’s creation] God saw everything he had made and, look! it was very good. And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a sixth day." (Gen. 1:31) After the sixth creative day ends, the seventh one begins.
33 This time between Adam’s creation and the beginning of the seventh day, the day of rest, let it be noted, need not have been a long time. It could have been a rather short one. ( Please note the wishfull thinking of this author. He is NOT being deffinite. He is ASSUMING a time period based on the observations he makes. NOTHING deffinate is stated. Lets continue......) The naming of the animals by Adam, and his discovery that there was no complement for himself, required no great length of time. The animals were in subjection to Adam; they were peaceful; they came under God’s leading; they were not needing to be chased down and caught. It took Noah only seven days to get the same kinds of animals, male and female, into the Ark. (Gen. 7:1-4) Eve’s creation was quickly accomplished, ‘while Adam was sleeping.’ (Gen. 2:21) So the lapse of time between Adam’s creation and the end of the sixth creative day, though unknown, was a comparatively short period of time. (The length of time was unknown. I would assume here that the auther was looking at things from a HUMAN point of view. A mistake we all make especially if we are anticipating an event, say the arrival of long lost relatives... we eagerly look for ANY sign of their arrival ... may even get very excited when we think we pwrcieve them comming do we not. Take a trip to an airport and watch the anticipatiion of realatives and freinds as the eagerly scan the skies and keep their eye on the arrival notices..... When we consider that a Thousand years is but as one day to Jehovah (Psalms 90:4 , 2 Peter 3:8) so 30, 40, 50 or 100 years to us is a comparatively short period of time to Jehovah. Lets continue...) The pronouncement at the end of the sixth day, "God saw everything he had made and, look! it was very good," proves that the beginning of the great seventh day of the creative week did not wait until after Adam and Eve sinned and were expelled from the Garden of Eden.
1975! . . . AND FAR BEYOND!
34 Bible chronology is an interesting study by which historic events are placed in their order of occurrence along the stream of time. The Watch Tower Society over the years has endeavored to keep its associates abreast with the latest scholarship that proves consistent with historic and prophetic events recorded in the Scriptures. Major problems in sacred chronology have been straightened out either due to fulfillment of Bible prophecies or by reason of archaeological discoveries or because better Bible translations convey more clearly the records of the original languages. However, several knotty problems of chronology of a minor nature are not yet resolved. For example, at the time of the exodus from Egypt when Jehovah changed the beginning of the year from autumn time on the secular calendar to spring time on the sacred calendar, was there, in the Jewish calendar, a loss or a gain of six months?—Ex. 12:1, 2.
35 One thing is absolutely certain, Bible chronology reinforced with fulfilled Bible prophecy shows that six thousand years of man’s existence will soon be up, yes, within this generation! (Matt. 24:34) This is, therefore, no time to be indifferent and complacent. This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that "concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end. Make no mistake, it is sufficient that the Father himself knows both the "day and hour"!
36 Even if one cannot see beyond 1975, is this any reason to be less active? The apostles could not see even this far; they knew nothing about 1975. All they could see was a short time ahead in which to finish the work assigned to them. (1 Pet. 4:7 "The end of all things is at hand; therefore keep sane and sober for your prayers") Hence, there was a ring of alarm and a cry of urgency in all their writings. (Acts 20:20; "how I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you in public places" ; 2 Tim. 4:2 "preach the word, be urgent in season and out of season") And rightly so. If they had delayed or dillydallied and had been complacent with the idea the end was some thousands of years off they would never have finished running the race set before them. No, they ran hard and they ran fast, and they won! It was a life or death matter with them.—1 Cor. 9:24; 2 Tim. 4:7; Heb. 12:1.
37 So too with Jehovah’s faithful witnesses in this latter half of the twentieth century. They have the true Christian point of view. Their strenuous evangelistic activity is not something peculiar to this present decade. They have not dedicated their lives to serve Jehovah only until 1975. Christians have been running this way ever since Christ Jesus blazed the trail and commanded his disciples. "Follow me!" So keep this same mental attitude in you that was in Christ Jesus. Let nothing slow you down or cause you to tire and give out. Those who will flee Babylon the Great and this Satanic system of things are now running for their lives, headed for God’s kingdom, and they will not stop at 1975. O no! They will keep on in this glorious way that leads to everlasting life, praising and serving Jehovah for ever and ever!
> Z obu możemy wyczytać że WTBTS pomaga nam trwać w postawie oczekującego dnia końca, ale nikt nie ma tu żadnych nadziei opartych na dacie. Jednakże niektórzy poszli nieco dalej i oparli się na dacie, sądzę że jest to bardzo pochopna decyzja, w końcu nikt z ludzi nie zna dnia ani godziny (Mateusza 24:36). Pytanie pozostaje jedynie – jakimi motywami się kierują właśnie tacy służąc Bogu. Jeśli ktoś popełnił jakiś bląd - to były to błędy jedynie poszczególnych jednostek. Ja się nie wtrącam w Katolicyzm i jego przepowiednie co do końca świata (a takowe już miały być). Więcej w tym temacie ... na:
http://hector3000.fu...ce.com/1975.htm
#70738 Świadkowie Jehowy, a pierwsi chrześcijanie...
Napisano przez yogiii on 2007-07-22, godz. 11:50 w Tematyka ogólna
Zatem, z jakimi intencjami jest Twoja odpowiedź o literaturze Towarzystwa? Te uśmiechy na końcu zdań? Zadałem Ci wcześniej pytanie czy lepiej się poczułaś pisząc takie rzeczy?
>> Pytanie tylko- ile wiemy na temat pierwszych chrześcijan??
Po co wiedzieć cokolwiek na temat pierwszych chrześcijanach jak nie można zrozumieć takich podstawowych prawd o dobroci i miłości? Szatan zna osobiście Boga, tylko na co mu ta wiedza…
Aha i czemu napisałaś:
>> „Miałam okazję zwiedzać wczesnochrześcijańskie katakumby przy Via Appia Antica w Rzymie. Ciekawe doświadczenie, które poruszyło moją wyobraźnię ”
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#70723 Świadkowie Jehowy, a pierwsi chrześcijanie...
Napisano przez yogiii on 2007-07-22, godz. 10:25 w Tematyka ogólna
Zastanawiam się co chciałaś/łeś zaprezentować sobą takim wstępem? Zastanawiam się... hm... myślisz przede wszystkim o sobie pisząc taki wstęp? Lepiej się poczułaś? Pomagasz komuś takimi słowami czy po prostu szukasz taniej i dobrej zabawy czyimś kosztem?
#44953 Świadkowie Jehowy to wspaniali ludzie
Napisano przez yogiii on 2006-12-09, godz. 19:16 w Tematyka ogólna
Zakładam że sobie nie porozmawiamy, chyba że wpadnę tutaj z nowinką i zafascynuję Cię wielokolorową opowieścią jak ‘ten to głupot naopowiadał przy głoszeniu’, wtedy było by ciut sensacji na jakiś czas. No bo, po co ja mam tutaj przyjśc i powiedziec coś o kimś dobrego - co Ci to da, prawda?
Pozdrawiam
#3351 Świadkowie Jehowy a J 17,3
Napisano przez yogiii on 2005-02-06, godz. 19:02 w Trójca
#3345 Świadkowie Jehowy a J 17,3
Napisano przez yogiii on 2005-02-06, godz. 18:30 w Trójca
To jakby powiedzieć że zastosowanie zwrotu MONOteizm odnoszące się do wiary tylko w jednego prawdziwego Boga, wcale nie wyklucza tego, że mogą być inni prawdziwi bogowie.
Rzecz w tym że Jezus przedstawia swojego Ojca w kategorii jedynego prawdziwego Boga. Ile osób zostało przedstawionych przez Jezusa w kategorii jedynego prawdziwego Boga w Jana 17:3?
Rozważ KJV John 5:44 "How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that [cometh] from God only (monon)?"
Moje wnioski:
> użycie tego słowa w J 17,3 w stosunku do Boga wcale nie wyklucza tego, że Bogiem może być też i Jezus.
rzeczywiście, tak też być może, nie zaneguję tego stanowczo. Jeśli chodzi o mój punkt widzenia, sensowniejsza wydaje mi się interpretacja że Jezus miał na myśli konkretnie jedynie jedną osobę w kategorii 'jedynego prawdziwego Boga'.
#44993 Świadek Jehowy zabił/ukradł/etc.
Napisano przez yogiii on 2006-12-09, godz. 21:09 w Tematyka ogólna
Można, tylko co to da? Za dużo i tak już mieszania w głowie, lepiej zapomniec i dwa razy zrobic coś miłego dla innych. Jak ktoś Cię będzie bombardował jedynie takimi wspaniałościami to szybko sobie zetrzesz emocje. A emocje bardzo trudno odbudowac.
#44632 Świadek Jehowy zabił/ukradł/etc.
Napisano przez yogiii on 2006-12-08, godz. 18:40 w Tematyka ogólna
Zastanawiam się więc co mnie pominęło.
#44571 Świadek Jehowy zabił/ukradł/etc.
Napisano przez yogiii on 2006-12-08, godz. 14:05 w Tematyka ogólna
Więc jak? To ze względu na sensację? Zasłyszałem, łatwo, szybko, pokaż palcem, o to ciekawe, a ten co zrobił… tak, ale przecież to fakty i prawda. Powiedzieli że nie wolno na organizację powiedziec słowa? To my zrobimy inaczej, a bo tak.
Tylko kto tego potrzebuje?
Zabił, ukradł? To jest podniecające? Nareszcie daje się coś poczuc?
... kto tego potrzebuje?
#44665 Świadek Jehowy zabił/ukradł/etc.
Napisano przez yogiii on 2006-12-08, godz. 21:03 w Tematyka ogólna
Oboje piszemy o tym samym. W którym miejscu pisałem o prawdziwości i "czy warto w ogóle interesować się jakąś religią/religią ŚJ"? Komentuję TEN temat. Ulży Ci jak postawisz palec na kimś i udowodnisz mu że nie jest kryształowy i wspaniały? Jeśli poczuliście się dotknięci zachowaniem poszczególnych ŚJ to dlaczego nie dacie im piękniejszego przykładu? Ważniejsze udowodnić i postawić na swoim?
#44713 Świadek Jehowy zabił/ukradł/etc.
Napisano przez yogiii on 2006-12-09, godz. 07:04 w Tematyka ogólna
Czy ta nalepka jest nadana przez nich? Ja osobiście nie spotkałem się aby którykolwiek ze Świadków Jehowy przez te moje wszystkie lata zasugerował że społecznośc należąca do organizacji jest "piękna i nieskazitelna".
#10522 ŚJ a moda
Napisano przez yogiii on 2005-09-15, godz. 09:15 w Zwyczaje Świadków Jehowy
Nikt nie pytał mnie o zdanie, ale nie lubię kultury Zachodu.
#9426 Łódź
Napisano przez yogiii on 2005-08-15, godz. 17:36 w Szukam kontaktu
#97690 Znamię Bestii
Napisano przez yogiii on 2008-07-27, godz. 13:04 w Ogólne
Oczywiście niektórzy na widok samego portala powiedzą „o, tak wygląda demon”, przez co Ci którzy stoją obok pomyślą że jak jesteś wierzący to tak właśnie myślisz. I to mnie bardziej martwi.
Jeśli chodzi o Twoją zbieżność to ... ok... tyle że skrót www bierze się z angielskiego.
#97699 Znamię Bestii
Napisano przez yogiii on 2008-07-27, godz. 16:49 w Ogólne
Chcę powiedzieć że bez względu na to jak bardzo jesteśmy bombardowani takimi "faktami" przez internet, czy takie rzeczy są prawdą czy nie... czy ktoś nami manipuluje... czy kiedyś było lepiej czy teraz jest gorzej... to uważam że co pokolenie rodzą się na ziemi ludzie którzy mimo takiej presji zewnętrznej są... takimi oryginałami uczuciowymi... skupiają uwagę na zupełnie inne rzeczy w życiu, bez względu na zewnętrzny chaos. Po godzinach pracy w których klikam myszką i muszę się dobrze wysławiać.... nie ma nic piękniejszego jak oglądanie w ciszy mojej kobiety. Nie potrzebuję nic więcej, nie muszę wtedy myśleć... po prostu... wtedy dopiero żyję. Wtedy lubię wieś i nawet nie chce mi się rozmawiać...jest mi cudownie.
#11023 Zapytanie
Napisano przez yogiii on 2005-09-24, godz. 06:14 w Podręczna wyszukiwarka Koranu
#10575 Zabrakło światła?
Napisano przez yogiii on 2005-09-15, godz. 21:13 w Obowiązki teokratyczne
#46599 Za co krytykujemy WTS
Napisano przez yogiii on 2006-12-22, godz. 13:37 w Tematyka ogólna
oh, więc ja będę chodź jedynym który tego nie potwierdzi... i wystarczy.
#10406 Wykształcenie, oficjalny pogląd SJ
Napisano przez yogiii on 2005-09-13, godz. 10:58 w Nowinki doktrynalne Towarzystwa Strażnica
#10414 Wykształcenie, oficjalny pogląd SJ
Napisano przez yogiii on 2005-09-13, godz. 11:48 w Nowinki doktrynalne Towarzystwa Strażnica
#10417 Wykształcenie, oficjalny pogląd SJ
Napisano przez yogiii on 2005-09-13, godz. 12:14 w Nowinki doktrynalne Towarzystwa Strażnica
Aha. Odpowiedź brzmi: Nie, bo nie wydaje mi się, żeby Twój komentarz był adekwatny do tego akapitu. Podpisuję się pod wypowiedzią: „Nawet tam, gdzie studia są bezpłatne, w grę mogą wchodzić rozmaite zobowiązania.”. Akapit dziewiąty natomiast, odzwierciedla mniej więcej to samo, co ‘pojechał’ Vienio z Molety [Molesta Ewenement, Taka Płyta, 2000]: „Coś za coś, chcesz mieć lepsze wykształcenie? Jeden warunek napełnij cudze kieszenie. To nie przeraża, wiarę w bezinteresowność podważa. Coś za coś na każdej ulicy w każdym mieście, mała cena za sławe dla każdego nareszcie, dają bieżcie, to uczucie niż dawanie lepsze. Chłopaku, dziewczyno - hajs jest upadku przyczyną! Dają coś - wyciągasz rękę - w porządku, gdy nie ma korzyści robisz miejsce dla rozsądku, czy tak cię wychowali w chrześcijańskim obrządku? Nie mam pytań mnie też szatan kusi, coś za coś, chyba tak być musi.”. Wspieraniem „obecnego systemu rzeczy” wydaje się być skupianie na wiedzy świeckiej, która niestety nie zawsze wychodzi wszystkim na dobre
#10397 Wykształcenie, oficjalny pogląd SJ
Napisano przez yogiii on 2005-09-13, godz. 08:39 w Nowinki doktrynalne Towarzystwa Strażnica
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